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With Tamara Ghandour

Dec 27, 2019

Too often, we get caught in looking at where we are and trying to work forward, which results in quite a bit of incremental improvement. Instead, we should be looking to the future and looking backward to see how we could get there using the technologies and capabilities available. This is what produces more innovative and transformational thinking — an area in which Herb Schul specializes.

Herb is the EY Americas Advisory Markets, Sectors, and Solutions Leader, and is responsible for driving Advisory go-to-market strategy, approach, and execution. His team plays a key role in leading the continued development and execution of issue-based, sector-relevant solutions to help drive greater connectivity and enable clients to thrive in the Transformative Age. With over 30 years of experience in the industry, Herb helped provide others the opportunity to grow and succeed through their client experiences and leadership development roles.

What does it really mean to be transformative and how does that differ from being disruptive? Herb and I discuss why companies struggle with the idea of dual transformation — in reality, running a business and doing what you do currently while transforming into something different is a very difficult concept to grasp. He explains how ‘future back’ can help organizations move towards being more transformative, and highlights some things to be mindful of when going through a transformation. Herb also has some insights into why transformation needs to be a part of the ecosystem of the organization, rather than occurring in silos, and what this could mean for the future.


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